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Andrew on: September 12, 2007, 05:51:53 PM

Honeycreeper will be released in Japan on September 26th. Herefs your chance to discuss it with fellow Puffy fans.


alkulp on: September 13, 2007, 09:03:47 AM

That new picture, posted today on the homepage, for Honeycreeper - Huh The close up of Ami & Yumi from the shoulders up with the fan on the wall betweenthem... I've never seen a Puffy picture where they looked so 'drugged'. Not the most flattering of pictures. Looks like they could fall asleep in seconds.


Andrew on: September 13, 2007, 10:12:50 AM

Cheesy Lol now that you mention it -- it does look like they could do with a nap. I just took their new picture from their Japanese website and stuck a larger pic of the honeycreeper bird between them.


Jeff on: September 13, 2007, 11:37:03 AM

I think they look pretty good in the new official site photo. Ami's always had little bags under her eyes; it's just the shape of her eyes. Neither of them has had "the eye job" that I can tell.

They're not the bubbly little pop princesses they used to be, though, and I think that's a good thing at their age.

But I think that photo's obviously going for something of an early 70's vibe, and their attitude fits the style there.

This is the worst picture of them that I've ever seen:

They look like drunk prostitutes in that photo.


Anthony on: September 13, 2007, 04:05:59 PM

I like that new site photo, too. Am I the only one who thinks that Ami and Yumi look better and better the older they get?

As for the album itself, I have high hopes for it. The only thing that might give me pause is the large number of different producers -- hopefully the CD will be like Splurge in that, even though there's a large number of producers, the record itself has a fairly consistent tone. I'll probably love it no matter what, though.


Cerahbes on: September 14, 2007, 12:00:52 AM

I am so pumped for this album to come out - I pre-ordered it as soon as they announced it. I just gotta support my girls *^_^*.
As far as the Honeycreeper pictures I have seen thus far, they look okay ... definately Puffy though. They never really seem to take anything very seriously, especially if you have seen them in concert. While I do like the pictures - they are starting to show their age a bit. I could only hope to look that great in my 30s.


Jeff on: September 14, 2007, 05:58:44 AM


Quote from: Anthony on September 13, 2007, 04:05:59 PM
I like that new site photo, too. Am I the only one who thinks that Ami and Yumi look better and better the older they get?

I think most of it is just that they've probably learned over the years what works best for them as far as makeup, hair, clothes, etc. Sometimes I know it looks like they're not even trying, but I don't believe for a second that any time you see them publicly, their appearance is not completely calculated. (Not to say I think every look they've chosen always works... but I do think they're all intentional.)

Sometimes I think Ami cakes on the makeup a little too much lately, maybe trying to look younger. Yumi definitely looks a lot better than she did in the early years, though. I actually think she might have had something done... but I don't know what. Look at her in the Asia no Junshin video, though, and then look at her now. It's like a different person.

I do think they both look amazing overall, though, and not just "for their age". Maybe it's because I am their age, but I still think they look pretty youthful.


Anthony on: September 14, 2007, 07:39:16 AM

Quote from: Jeff on September 14, 2007, 05:58:44 AM
I actually think (Yumi) might have had something done... but I don't know what. Look at her in the Asia no Junshin video, though, and then look at her now. It's like a different person.

I used to think this too, but I honestly think it's (mostly) her hair and how she does her makeup now. I remember watching the Tour! Puffy! Tour! 10 DVD and comparing the Yumi on stage with the old footage being shown on the video screens, and thinking they were pretty different. But there were a few times during the concert where the camera hit her face at a certain angle and she looked exactly like she did in the old photos (hair excepted, of course).

If anything, I think Yumi's face might not be as round as it used to be; but that could simply be a case of how her hairstyle frames her face. But simply looking at her eyes, nose, lips, etc. then compared to now, they seem to be the same.


Destruction Pancake on: September 14, 2007, 09:14:25 AM

Puffy's always been on the top of their game in fashion. In fact, the cover for Splurge made me buy from "Frankenstein boots", as my father calls them, from Hot Topic, along with a denim skirt and some skull and crossbones leggings for my birthday last year.

Of course, they're going to start showing their age, but as always, being stars (and as well as being Asian) they'll age much more gracefully than most people will. I honestly also think it's because the older they get, the more serious they become. My sister's now 30, and in the last couple of years, her fashion style has started to dull down just because of maturity.

As for the make-up thing, take it from a nearly 17-year-old girl -- it's part of the punk/rock trend. Have you seen some girls' Myspace photos? They cake on that make-up and over-use eyeliner. I honestly prefer to think less is more, especially when dealing with really noticable make-up like eyeliner, mascara, eyeshadow, and blush. Anything that you can use to make your face look more natural in color is okay to over-use, as long as it doesn't have that caked look. I'll do admit though that I like to wear very bold eyeshadow.

Eventually, when I have time, I'll post a picture of myself, but right now, I've got some downtime in my Accounting class. Don't expect me to have access to this site though soon at school. We have an autoblocker that catches things pretty quickly, so I'll probably end up answering most of these at home in my spare time during the weekdays and on the weekends.


Cerahbes on: September 14, 2007, 01:28:58 PM

Hehe - hit a nerve on a few people about showing their age. Simply put, they are getting older and no that is not a bad thing. Seems the majority here has picked Yumi ... yay <3 I really really hope we get another US tour for Honeycreeper. I hit Cincinnati, Chicago, and Cleveland shows last year. I just might have to take an early vacation... ha!


ichigo on: September 14, 2007, 01:34:07 PM

Quote from: Jeff on September 13, 2007, 11:37:03 AM
They look like drunk prostitutes in that photo.

I have to agree! Usually when I see a new Puffy picture, I squeal with glee, but that one just left me speechless. In a bad way. Maybe it's just the lipstick, but ick!


krash on: September 14, 2007, 07:56:45 PM

hey!
the pics are propositally taken! they are paid to be on pics!
if they're in this way, it's because the productor wanted that they had to be that!
i love all pics about Puffy!
and Yumi changes a lot since '96... Ami too! Her hair has changed a lot!

c ya


mevenstien on: September 15, 2007, 06:07:20 AM

hey everyone,

i like thier pic .i agree with what "krash" said. and for working as much as they have in their fields from such an early age to present i think they look absolutely beautiful!!!! also i'm very much looking forward to their new album.it sounds like a great title for an album. i like puffy ami yumi ! Smiley


TBB on: September 24, 2007, 03:23:29 AM

Which cover of the album is the Limited Edition version. Is it the normal cover (the one you always see) or the one you see at the bottom of the Honeycreeper page on the Discography of PUFFY's Japanese site.(attached)


Anthony on: September 25, 2007, 05:06:54 AM

So I got an email from CDJapan this morning saying they'd shipped out my copy of honeycreeper (and a couple of other things I ordered) today. When I checked the EMS tracking, though, I was pleasantly surprised to find that my parcel had actually shipped out on Sunday -- not only that, but my package is currently sitting in Chicago, which means Anna will be plotting a quick trip to Chicago to steal my CD and make it her very own that the CD should reach my house no later than tomorrow!

My day just got 1000% awesomer (yes, I know that's not a real word).

All About Honeycreeper - Page Two

PUFFYsayGO! on: September 25, 2007, 05:13:39 PM

I actually got my copy today, the day it released in Japan. Was I pleasantly surprised! Grin Grin Cheesy Shocked I was expecting to get it tomorrow on Wednesday.

I really like the album. A lot. I wrote a short review on CDJapan.

My personal faves are Sayonara-sama, Ghost PUFFY, Oedo Nagareboshi IV, Island, Kuchibiru Motion, Closet Full Of Love, and Oriental Diamond.

I really hope someone on this board who knows Japanese can translate this album. I'm dying to know what is up with "Ghost PUFFY". As far as I can tell, some guys tell PUFFY a scary story, then PUFFY Monster comes and they're yelling something about Ami and Yumi in the chorus. It's really confusing. And man, it has one heck of a long introduction! Grin


jlummaa on: September 26, 2007, 11:43:47 AM

What a nice surprise Shocked Cool I just got home and found my Honeycreeper copy here already (in Finland). I guess in Japan the release day means that it's delivered on THAT day. I like their thinking Grin

I'm listening it right now and first thing that hits me are the 'lo-fi' ish, garage like sounds. Me likey a lot but that's something that may need a bit time to get used to.

My initial favourites Oriental Diamond, Ain't Gonna Cut It, Kuchibiru Motion, Boom Boom Beat, Youkai Puffy (Ghost Puffy), Closet Full of Love, Hasan Jauze, Oh Edo Nagareboshi IV, Island. Oh dear i love this music!

Thank you Puffy for kicking my butt once again Grin Please carry on!


Anthony on: September 26, 2007, 12:38:42 PM

I like the album. A lot. I've only listened to it once, so I can't elaborate until I hear it some more. But it's good.

Did anyone else get the free t-shirt? I was floored when my parcel came in a huge box today; I was only expecting two CDs and a DVD, which should have come in a smaller box. Lo and behold, I got one of the special "honeycreeper" T-shirts! I can't believe it! Of course, I can't wear it because it's a medium, but it's still cool to have! Along with the shirt, I also got a little sticker (I think) with the album cover on it and some text.

As for the shirt itself, it says "honeycreeper" in large katakana letters on the front, then on the very bottom of the back it says (also in katakana): "Puffy New Album honeycreeper", with a little drawing of a bird.

Off topic, but the DVD I got -- Suzuki Shoko: Life,/ Music & Love features Yumi quite a bit in interviews (from 2004), and there's even a clip of her and Ami singing with Shoko back in 2001 or so, so that was another welcome bonus.


Jeff on: September 26, 2007, 01:14:27 PM

Quote from: jlummaa on September 26, 2007, 11:43:47 AM
I'm listening it right now and first thing that hits me are the 'lo-fi' ish, garage like sounds. Me likey a lot but that's something that may need a bit time to get used to.

Well this sounds promising from a musical standpoint, but have they just given up even trying to be mainstream in Japan at this point? Not that there's anything wrong with that if they really just don't care (and more power to them if they don't), but it's not like they're some indie band that happened to get a record deal. The whole reason they exist is to sell lots of albums and make a lot of money. Maybe they don't care about that anymore, but I just worry about the kind of support they're going to continue to get from their record label and management.

I probably won't get my copy for the next few days, but I'm intrigued now.

Quote from: Anthony on September 26, 2007, 12:38:42 PM
Did anyone else get the free t-shirt? I was floored when my parcel came in a huge box today; I was only expecting two CDs and a DVD, which should have come in a smaller box. Lo and behold, I got one of the special "honeycreeper" T-shirts!

Dude, where did you order from? I ordered from CD Japan, I am hoping to hell that's the same place you ordered from.

I'm gonna update my blog post about the shirt with this little tidbit of info...


PUFFYsayGO! on: September 26, 2007, 01:43:58 PM

It probably isn't, because I didn't get all that stuff! I'm sad now.

If it IS from CD Japan, I'll have to question them about it, since I got the First Edition honeycreeper.

Jeff, I dunno if you'll like PUFFY's new sound or not .The overall album's got a glammy rock feel to it, like Kuchibiru Motion. But they can't be PUFFY without having different sounding songs on it. The very last song, Island, is an Irish folk song with electric guitars in the background! That was very unexpected.


Anthony on: September 26, 2007, 01:57:16 PM

Actually, my order was from CDJapan.

I'd scan the shirt or get pictures, but today's been a very bad day for my computer, so that won't be happening any time soon. You can see the image on Jeff's blog, anyway. The sticker is just the album cover with a little pink box underneath describing the promo t-shirt thing.

The booklet is neat -- lots of close up head shots of Ami and Yumi individually. They look a little sweaty in some of the photos, but not bad.

It's true that some of the tracks have a rougher, low-fi rock sound, but that's balanced by the singles and especially Butch Walker's tracks. "Ain't Gonna Cut It" sounds exactly like ELO to me, while "Closet Full of Love" sounds like some '80s song, but (irritatingly) I can't figure out which one. "Youkai PUFFY" is strange -- three full minutes of what sounds like a radio play, followed by a four minute song (yes, the track clocks in at over seven minutes). Other songs like "Sayonara Summer" are also quite poppy.


Jeff on: September 26, 2007, 02:22:21 PM

Quote from: Anthony on September 26, 2007, 01:57:16 PM
Actually, my order was from CDJapan.

When did they ship yours? I'm just wondering if there's some correlation. This shirt thing seemed to be extremely last-minute. Well, now I'm going to be pissed off if I don't get one.

Quote
It's true that some of the tracks have a rougher, low-fi rock sound, but that's balanced by the singles and especially Butch Walker's tracks. "Ain't Gonna Cut It" sounds exactly like ELO to me, while "Closet Full of Love" sounds like some '80s song, but (irritatingly) I can't figure out which one. "Youkai PUFFY" is strange -- three full minutes of what sounds like a radio play, followed by a four minute song (yes, the track clocks in at over seven minutes). Other songs like "Sayonara Summer" are also quite poppy.

Ami's got a new post up on Amigator where she talks a bit about Youkai PUFFY. I can't really get all of what she's saying even after doing an auto-translate (I never can), but it seems like it does start out with some sort of ghost story before going into the song itself. Anyway it seems like it's the song she's most impressed with.


Anthony on: September 26, 2007, 03:16:29 PM

I didn't get the email notifying me my stuff had been shipped until yesterday morning -- however, according to the EMS tracking log, my parcel was shipped out Sunday morning (my time, so late Sunday evening in Japan). Also, I ordered my disc from CDJapan almost as soon as it was listed for sale, so that may also have had something to do with it.


yom1970 on: September 26, 2007, 04:03:52 PM

It's not that every purchaser of the CD can have the t-shirt. It's only for lottery winners.


DoAsPuffy on: September 26, 2007, 08:48:14 PM


Quote from: PAFUIIsayGO! on September 25, 2007, 05:13:39 PM
I really hope someone on this board who knows Japanese can translate this album. I'm dying to know what is up with "Ghost PUFFY". As far as I can tell, some guys tell PUFFY a scary story, then PUFFY Monster comes and they're yelling something about Ami and Yumi in the chorus. It's really confusing. And man, it has one heck of a long introduction! Grin

From what I can understand, this group of guys rings Puffy's doorbell, and Yumi says something like "Who could that be at this hour?" Then the guys start talking in Korean, and Ami repeats it confusedly. Yumi realizes that they're talking in Korean, and asks "Kankoku no hito? (Are you Korean?)", then Ami asks "Dochira sama? (Who are you?)".

Then the guys say their names, adding "-sama" at the end of their names, which is beyond extremely rude in Japan, btw, lol. Ami asks if they are Korean, then the guys say that they are like from ancient Japan (? Don't know if I heard this correctly), then say that they want to tell a scary story. Ami is excited and says "Kikitai! (I want to hear!)", but Yumi complains, "Zen zen kikitakunai yo..(I don't want to listen at all..)"

The guys begin to tell a scary story about Youkai Puffy. I couldn't really catch any details, but as the story goes on, Ami gets scared and says "Kowai yo! (That's scary!)" and Yumi says "Zen zen kowakunai yo (This isn't scary at all)". They tell more of the story and say that there's a song about it, and saying how it's "hen" (weird).

Ami and Yumi open the door, and frighteningly ask, "Konna kao desu ka?", which would mean something to the effect of "What's wrong with your face?" (I think). Then all the guys should "The end!!". Then the song starts.

Whew, I'm surprised I understood the majority of it! This really helped my Japanese skills..

EDIT: BTW...."honeycreeper" is #17 on the Oricon Charts!


TBB on: September 26, 2007, 10:55:39 PM

Sad I pre-ordered my copy from Yesasia and it still hasnt shipped off yet Angry. I NEED IT NOW!!


jlummaa on: September 27, 2007, 12:56:44 AM

Quote from: Jeff on September 26, 2007, 01:14:27 PM
Quote from: jlummaa on September 26, 2007, 11:43:47 AM
I'm listening it right now and first thing that hits me are the 'lo-fi' ish, garage like sounds. Me likey a lot but that's something that may need a bit time to get used to.

Well this sounds promising from a musical standpoint, but have they just given up even trying to be mainstream in Japan at this point? Not that there's anything wrong with that if they really just don't care (and more power to them if they don't), but it's not like they're some indie band that happened to get a record deal. The whole reason they exist is to sell lots of albums and make a lot of money. Maybe they don't care about that anymore, but I just worry about the kind of support they're going to continue to get from their record label and management.

Well, i must say the garage thing is not all over the Honeycreeper but i would say it's there more than ever before. BTW, I ordered from CD Japan but didn't get t-shirt.


Jeff on: September 27, 2007, 04:32:11 AM

Quote from: DoAsPafii on September 26, 2007, 08:48:14 PM
EDIT: BTW...."honeycreeper" is #17 on the Oricon Charts!


http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/

#18 now... but still not bad. Would be nice to see it going up instead of down, though. Hit & Fun hit #9 on the daily chart IIRC.

Lot of competition this week, though. Look at all those 9/26 dates on that chart.


yom1970 on: September 27, 2007, 09:13:59 AM

Quote from: DoAsPafii on September 26, 2007, 08:48:14 PM
From what I can understand, this group of guys rings Puffy's doorbell, and Yumi says something like "Who could that be at this hour?" Then the guys start talking in Korean, and Ami repeats it confusedly. Yumi realizes that they're talking in Korean, and asks "Kankoku no hito? (Are you Korean?)", then Ami asks "Dochira sama? (Who are you?)".

Then the guys say their names, adding "-sama" at the end of their names, which is beyond extremely rude in Japan, btw, lol. Ami asks if they are Korean, then the guys say that they are like from ancient Japan (? Don't know if I heard this correctly), then say that they want to tell a scary story. Ami is excited and says "Kikitai! (I want to hear!)", but Yumi complains, "Zen zen kikitakunai yo..(I don't want to listen at all..)"

The guys begin to tell a scary story about Youkai Puffy. I couldn't really catch any details, but as the story goes on, Ami gets scared and says "Kowai yo! (That's scary!)" and Yumi says "Zen zen kowakunai yo (This isn't scary at all)". They tell more of the story and say that there's a song about it, and saying how it's "hen" (weird).

I think DoAsPafii well explained the first part, so I will explain the latter part.

The three Koreans (Byon-sama, Don-sama and Goi-sama) begin to tell a scary story about what Goi-sama experienced when he was in bed in a hotel room with his girl, doing what one does when he is in bed with his girl.
But their story deviates a lot and they keep on cracking nasty obscene jokes (translating those jokes into English is beyond me).
So Ami says, "Hey, their story IS scary, but in another way.", and Yumi says to them, "I will call the police, okay?"
Then, they say please don't, and get down to telling the story.

Their story goes like this:
In the hotel room, Goi-sama noticed a loud noise coming from the next room.
He thought the noise was a snore, and he went to the next room to tell the guy stop snoring.
Coming near to the room, he realized the noise was not a snore but a song.
The door was slightly open, so he peeked at the room to find there were two scary ghosts, PUFFY-ghosts, singing a very dreadful song and dancing in a very dreadful step.

After telling that, the three Koreans yell "That's so scary! That's so scary!" unanimously, until Yumi stops their yelling.
"Pardon me for interrupting your talk, but...", say Ami and Yumi, showing their faces to the guys, "DID THE GHOSTS LOOK LIKE THIS?"
Then the Koreans cry "Aaaaaagh, THE GHOSTS!!"
...Yes, the three Koreans were speaking to the very ghosts they were talking about.

TRIVIA

* This punch line (telling a ghost story to the ghost) is a parody of "The Mujina of the Akasaka Road", or Story of Noppera-bo, by Lafcadio Hearn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noppera-b%C5%8D
* The lyricist (Kankuro Kudo), the songwriter (Taku Tomizawa), and the voice actors in the intro of this song are the members of a punk band "Group Tamashii", whose CD tracks are often filled with this kind of comedy skits.
* Kankuro Kudo is a famous scenario writer in Japan.
* The band's front man, Sadao Abe (Byon-sama in this skit), is a well-known actor. If you have ever seen a movie "Shimotsuma Story" (aka Kamikaze Girls), you may remember him as "Unicorn Ryuji".


Jeff on: September 27, 2007, 09:28:36 AM

Quote from: yom1970 on September 27, 2007, 09:13:59 AM
The band's front man, Sadao Abe (Byon-sama in this skit), is a well-known actor. If you have ever seen a movie "Shimotsuma Story" (aka Kamikaze Girls), you may remember him as "Unicorn Ryuji".

Well, that's awesome. That is one of my favorite movies, I am almost ashamed to say. (Puts me squarely in otaku-ville.)


All About Honeycreeper - Page Three

Andrew on: September 27, 2007, 09:54:08 AM
DoAsPafii and yom1970,

Thanks for the great info on Youkai Puffy. Ifll be sure to incorporate it into the song page along with a credit. Now if only my copy would get here lol.


PUFFYsayGO! on: September 27, 2007, 01:52:40 PM

For Youkai PUFFY, I figured out a "scary" story was being told. But at the end, when the door creaks, I thought some ghost or monster was after PUFFY, because what they say next makes them sound scared, but with your explanations, it makes so much more sense!

I just don't get why Korean guys are telling this stuff to PUFFY. I think it's really funny because right when I read that the guys saw ghosts singing and dancing badly, I knew right away they saw PUFFY! Grin

Quote from: PAFUIIsayGO! on September 26, 2007, 01:43:58 PM
Jeff, I dunno if you'll like PUFFY's new sound or not .The overall album's got a glammy rock feel to it, like Kuchibiru Motion. But they can't be PUFFY without having different sounding songs on it. The very last song, Island, is an Irish folk song with electric guitars in the background! That was very unexpected.

I forgot to justify why I said this. Some people might not like the album since it's a different PUFFY. I like it, but I'm still trying to get used to this new PUFFY. I personally like 2002-2005 PUFFY the most.

Now that I've listened to the album more, I think my most favorite song would have to be "Closet Full Of Love".

I personally think "Ain't Gonna Cut It" sounds a bit ABBA-ish, and Sayounara Summer was written and performed by members of the pillows, so it's got their sound to it, which is a kind of laid back indie rock, and not pop, as described by someone earlier.

i'm really mad about the shirt thing. I need to contact CD Japan about that.


Anthony on: September 27, 2007, 02:27:25 PM

I would like to add my thanks to Anna and yom1970 for their translation of "Youkai PUFFY." That was totally awesome!


DoAsPuffy on: September 27, 2007, 07:51:53 PM
Quote from: Anthony on September 27, 2007, 02:27:25 PM
I would like to add my thanks to Anna and yom1970 for their translation of "Youkai PUFFY." That was totally awesome!

You're welcome!

Thanks yom, for giving an explanation of the story.. they were talking too fast for me to understand, lol ^^'

Now, about "honeycreeper".. well, first off, I like to listen to albums one section at a time, usually like 3 or 4 songs, over and over, and then move on to the next section. So far I've been concentrating on "Oriental Diamond", "Ain't Gonna Cut It", "Kimi to Ootobai", "Kuchibiru Motion", and "Hayai Kuruma", so I'll give my opinions about them:

Oriental Diamond - I've loved this song from the first moment I saw the PV! It has such an authentic Puffy sound to it.. around like the "amiyumi"-era. Natsukashii!! ^0^ 5/5

Ain't Gonna Cut It - Currently my favorite song on the album. The melody is so catchy!! And I love the words too.."I can sharpen my knife, but it ain't gonna cut it, you ain't gonna cut it no more". Their vocals are really strong too. The intro reminds me of "Jetto Keisatsu"!! Love it! 5/5

Kimi to Ootobai - Puffy sang this in a different way.. kinda like slide-y, but in an awesome way. I dunno, I can't explain it, but I really love the way they sang it. "Baby, ootobai ni notte!" lol. 5/5

Kuchibiru Motion - The first time I heard this song was when I saw the PV, and I was pretty excited about it, because this song sounds so different than anything they've done before. It sounds more modern and mainstream to me. 5/5

Hayai Kuruma - Great song, I like how the title reflects the mood.."hayai" means fast, and this song was fast and fresh. I'm loving it! 4/5

I'll give the rest of my review once I listen to the other songs intently. Wink

EDIT: Whoops, I forgot to review "Kuchibiru Motion", so I just added it.



Jeff on: September 27, 2007, 07:58:21 PM

You guys are killing me describing this album. I really need to pay the extra 300 yen for EMS next time...


Anthony on: September 28, 2007, 08:09:56 AM

Quote from: Jeff on September 27, 2007, 07:58:21 PM
You guys are killing me describing this album. I really need to pay the extra 300 yen for EMS next time...

It really is worth it, in my opinion. It ends up being a few bucks more, and you have to sign for the package, but I usually end up getting my stuff (at least lately) right about on the day of release.

Also, Anna is right on about "Kimi to Ootobai"; it has a lilting vocal melody that sounds sorta odd at first, but ends up really grabbing you. Not only that, but Ami and Yumi's singing is very impassioned, almost urgent sounding. The song is quickly becoming one of my favorites on the album.

"Sayonara Summer," upon further listening, reminds me of "Try to Make It" by Sloan in places. I still say it has a poppier rock sound than stuff like "Kimi to Ootobai," "complaint" and "Hayai Kuruma" (which all rock hard). "Youkai PUFFY" (the song portion) is probably one of the more retro-sounding pieces on the album, but I like it a lot. I find myself singing "PUFFY the Monster Go! Go!" at random intervals now.

Finally, at the risk of angering everyone again (believe me, it's not my intention):

The front and back of the t-shirt
The sticker that came with the shirt


Jeff on: September 29, 2007, 09:17:44 AM

I got the shirt Cheesy

Gettin' ready to listen to the album now.


Andrew on: September 29, 2007, 10:06:38 AM

No T-shirt for me -- but I ordered pretty late. Nine new Puffy songs to listen to -- oh happy days eh. Grin


krash on: September 29, 2007, 10:35:05 PM
when i saw the pv of kuchibiru motion, i thought that puffy has changed their way to sing!
it's something more groovy, different...
i really enjoy the music


DoAsPuffy on: September 29, 2007, 11:27:20 PM

Now for the rest of my review!!

Sayonara Summer - The music is pretty good in this song, but I just don't find anything that captures my attention. It's not a bad song, don't get me wrong. It kinda reminds me of their NICE era. I think this needs to grow on me a little more though. 3/5

boom boom beat - I was quite excited when I heard this song for the first time, because this was the first single released after "Splurge". I had high expectations, and they were definitely fulfilled with this song. It's such a fun rockish song! I find myself randomly singing "You all wanna see us act happily, not reality!" I love it! 5/5

Youkai Puffy - Besides the extremely long intro, I like this song. I think they should have put the intro into a separate track, that way you wouldn't have to listen to the intro/fast forward through the intro just to listen to the song. Anyways..this song is crazy and fun.. reminds me of "Scooby-Doo", haha. "Puffy the monster, go go!" 4/5

Closet Full Of Love - I love their vocals on this! The verses are somewhat low and seductive, and the chorus bursts out into an awesome melody. This song kind of reminds me of a cross between Avril Lavigne and Hannah Montana. Haha, I don't know, but that's what I think when I hear it. Great song! 5/5

Hasan Jauze - Again, this is a nostalgic song like "Oriental Diamond". I really like the keyboards and percussions in this song. This is another song that needs to grow on me more though, lol. 4/5

complaint - The beginning of the intro reminds me of John Mayer's cover of "Route 66", haha. Anyways, the melody is great, and I like the guitar solo in it. It's a standard pop-rock song, in my opinion. 3/5

Oedo Nagareboshi IV - I've always liked Puffy's ska-ish songs, and this song is no exception. Awesome lyrics, awesome music, awesome song! I just really love it. 5/5

Island - Okay, prepare for my ramblings of why I think this song is a masterpiece. First off, the music is a cross between Irish, a little Spanish, rock, and God knows what else. That's just amazing in itself. The guitar solo melted my face off. The music overall is just amazing. And I haven't even gotten to Puffy yet. Puffy have really been experimenting with different vocal techniques on this album (i.e. "Kimi to Ootobai", "Closet Full Of Love", etc), and this song really just shows how versatile their vocals are. I love the way they sing this song. I just feel so calm and relaxed while listening to this song. 6/5 (yes, a 6...)

So, this album gets a 59/65, which is about 91%, which is a A-. "honeycreeper" passes with flying colors! lol.


Jeff on: September 30, 2007, 12:39:40 AM

Uh oh - my wife just turned me on to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsY_Np1dM3A

Listen to the chorus (something like 55 seconds in) - compare to Kimi to Ootobai. It's a dead ringer. The rest of the song is similar sounding too, but the chorus is the same.

I like the song, though, and the difference in their singing is just vibrato. They generally never use it when singing together (probably so they don't come unmatched), so it sounds weird when they do.

By the way, am I the only one that laughed the first time they heard Puffy sing "I can sharpen my HOOK" in "Ain't gonna cut it"? I didn't read the lyrics beforehand and I wasn't expecting it, and the way they sing it is kind of funny in itself. It also just doesn't make any sense.

About the album as a whole... I'm gonna need to listen to it a few more times before I write my review (which I'll post on my blog), but so far, I don't really think it sounds hugely different than most of their stuff. I mean all of their albums are *somewhat* different from each other (the one that *really* stands out to me as being significantly different is Spike), but not in a way that really suggests anything more than time passing. I don't find this album really much different, sound-wise, from Splurge, although I do miss the solo songs, and I also wish they'd get back to being a little more experimental in musical styles again sometime. Everything is pretty much straight ahead rock now, with the occasional ska track mixed in. No more disco, no more lounge, no more goofy weird stuff that's hard to categorize. (Youkai Puffy has a weird beginning, but the song itself is basic rock.) It's good music, but they're more predictable than they used to be.

One thing I probably won't be writing in my review (because my wife's gonna read it!) is how dead sexy I think Yumi sounds in Butch Walker's two songs - she's always louder in his songs and her voice is just killing me this time, especially listening through headphones as I am right now.


Anthony on: September 30, 2007, 07:28:24 AM

Quote from: Jeff on September 30, 2007, 12:39:40 AM
Uh oh - my wife just turned me on to this:

It's "Tokyo I'm On My Way" all over again! Tongue

Only this time the "an obscure band got copied from" argument doesn't work, since Boowy are fairly well-known in Japan; heck, Puffy covered one of their songs on The Hit Parade! You'd think that someone would catch this stuff, or at least credit the original songwriters for the bit they wrote.

I still like "Kimi to Ootobai," though.


rama333 on: September 30, 2007, 07:35:38 AM

Now thatas what I am talking about this Honeycreeper Is great great great great !!! Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley I have been listening to it all week I think they have out done themselves I hope this album makes it big all over the world becaus I think it is one of the best in rock history


HARDCORE on: October 01, 2007, 05:34:07 AM

I wanna hear it Y.Y .... =3


Jeff on: October 01, 2007, 08:37:07 AM

My review is up: http://amiyumidas.blogspot.com/2007/10/honeycreeper-album-review.html

I'm afraid it might come off as kind of a downer. The truth is I do like the album a lot, but I'm also a bit disappointed by it. I think they've set my expectations too high with their past work.

All About Honeycreeper - Page Four

Andrew on: October 01, 2007, 02:04:18 PM

Jeff,

Hmm think Ifll avoid reading your review then till I do a full one of my own for the website. At this point I think Ifd rate it pretty close to Splurge.

Once Ifve posted it Ifll include a link to yours.


Jeff on: October 02, 2007, 08:23:05 AM

Probably a good idea. I have a harder time being objective if I've already read a bunch of other peoples' opinions about something, especially a long and detailed review like mine tend to be.

The difference between honeycreeper and an album like Spike, though, is pretty obvious even without reading anything. It seems like they've been slowly pairing back everything but the hard rock over the past few albums. The retro stuff was the last to go; Splurge had it, honeycreeper doesn't. I like what's left, I just feel like something's missing.


alkulp on: October 02, 2007, 09:51:53 AM

Jeff (AmiYumiDas),

I read your review yesterday and have been contemplating posting my own comments, but have held them back. I have not been that impressed with honeycreeper. My initial thoughts were, if this were the first Puffy album I'd heard/bought I probably wouldn't buy another. It's ok, but it doesn't have that quality that made me fall in love with Puffy in the first place.

One thing I want to say, that I disagree with your assessment that the best songs are up front on this album. I think the loudest songs are up front. The feeling I get from these songs, with the possible exception of #4, is that they are produced 'too hot'. There isn't any 'headroom'. Everything is up and in your face. I felt tired after listening to it the first few times.

The music definitely has a harder erockf edge (and Ifm partial to the pop feel). I also feel Puffy is guilty of the same -- pushing their voices (hayai kuruma -- hurts at times) to the point where itfs more shrill screech and less musical/harmonic (a definite Puffy strength). Therefs also the lack of any eballadf or purely evocalf style songs.

I really wonder how much control Ami and Yumi have on the sound of an Album when they are using so many different writers, producers, arrangers, and mixers. We will probably never know their honest thoughts on this work, but that would be really interesting. I still love emyf Puffy, but I canft bring myself to add this album to my ePuffyAllf playlist (yet). Perhaps a few songs at a timec I will say that Ifm starting to find pieces of endearment. Perhaps I will warm to this album after seeing them live!


Jeff on: October 02, 2007, 10:46:49 AM

Andrew probably shouldn't read this Smiley

Quote from: alkulp on October 02, 2007, 09:51:53 AM
One thing I want to say, that I disagree with your assessment that the best songs are up front on this album. I think the loudest songs are up front. The feeling I get from these songs, with the possible exception of #4, is that they are produced 'too hot'. There isn't any 'headroom'. Everything is up and in your face. I felt tired after listening to it the first few times.

I don't think that "Ain't Gonna Cut It", "Sayonara Summer" or "Kuchibiru Motion" are all that loud, though. When I said the album was front-loaded, I meant up to track 9... it was really my nice way of saying they stuffed all the worst songs at the end of the album.

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The music definitely has a harder erockf edge (and Ifm partial to the pop feel). I also feel Puffy is guilty of the same -- pushing their voices (hayai kuruma -- hurts at times) to the point where itfs more shrill screech and less musical/harmonic (a definite Puffy strength). Therefs also the lack of any eballadf or purely evocalf style songs.

Yeah, I agree with both of these points. They're almost screaming on a lot of honeycreeper, and sometimes in places they shouldn't be. I like "Closet Full of Love" a lot, for example, but I'm still not sure about the way they sing the chorus. It sounds a little strange, and it's because they're really pushing it. It might have been better if they'd controlled it a little more. Ditto for "Island". And I wish there were some quieter songs too; the album is not very dynamic.

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I really wonder how much control Ami and Yumi have on the sound of an Album when they are using so many different writers, producers, arrangers, and mixers.

I actually said something about this in a comment on my review post, but I think they probably have more control than they used to. When it was Tamio Okuda or Andy Sturmer doing everything, they would just record whatever those guys wrote. Now they can pick and choose who to work with and what types of songs they want. I'm sure they decide everything well in advance. No doubt their management and record label are in on all these decisions, but they don't have one single point-man that they're dealing with anymore so my bet is they have more power to push their own ideas, especially since none of these "producers" really have any claim over them like Okuda and Sturmer did. My bet is these songs are really self-produced by "Team Puffy" and just credited to the songwriters. I do know that Ami is basically a punk/indie rock chick, and while Yumi seems to have some more eclectic tastes, she doesn't dislike the hard stuff so she'd probably just go with whatever Ami wanted.

My feeling is this is the kind of album they actually want to make, whereas their early albums were more intended to do well on the charts.

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We will probably never know their honest thoughts on this work, but that would be really interesting.

Ami has posted about it on her blog, and while I'm sure a lot of what she says about any album is really marketing, I would never accuse her of lying. And she's said she loves the album. She said it even before they recorded the vocals, when they first heard the instrumentals, and she still says it now. She's really proud of it.

Yumi doesn't write much anymore so who knows how she feels about it. It sometimes seems like she could be recording rap music for all she cares, as long as she gets to perform. I don't know if that's really true, but she always seems just as comfortable and into it no matter what style of music she's singing or playing. Ami's the one that sometimes looks a little bored to me, and I know from interviews that Ami's tastes are a lot more specific.


Anthony on: October 02, 2007, 11:24:38 AM

I will say that I do miss Ami and Yumi harmonizing. That was one thing (among many) that Andy Sturmer excelled at -- he had Ami and Yumi often sing in harmony instead of just singing together. There's really not too much of that on honeycreeper.

Quote from: Jeff on October 02, 2007, 10:46:49 AM
My bet is these songs are really self-produced by "Team Puffy" and just credited to the songwriters.

It's possible. It's interesting to note that a handful of songs on the last two albums -- "Koi no Etude," "Mogura," "Kimi to Ootobai," "Hayai Kuruma" and "Island" -- have no producer's credit, only an arranger's credit.


Jeff on: October 02, 2007, 12:06:06 PM

Quote from: Anthony on October 02, 2007, 11:24:38 AM
It's possible. It's interesting to note that a handful of songs on the last two albums -- "Koi no Etude," "Mogura," "Kimi to Ootobai," "Hayai Kuruma" and "Island" -- have no producer's credit, only an arranger's credit.

I didn't even notice that. Well, those have gotta be self-produced then. As for the others, I just can't imagine all those guys are really sitting around the studio directing things and getting on phones talking to mixers and session musicians and whatnot for one song on a Puffy album. The fact that all the songs sound basically similar also suggests to me that Puffy themselves (or their staff) are doing a lot of the legwork.

I just realized I kinda contradicted myself in my first and second paragraphs above also.. what I meant is that while "Sayonara Summer", etc. are not particularly loud, I miss the real ballads like "Rakuda no Kuni" or "This is the Song of Sweet Sweet Season when Cherry Garcia Blossoms Bloom", and also the laid-back loungey stuff like "Cosmic Wonder".


alkulp on: October 02, 2007, 03:51:34 PM

Quote from: Jeff on October 02, 2007, 10:46:49 AM
... When I said the album was front-loaded, I meant up to track 9... it was really my nice way of saying they stuffed all the worst songs at the end of the album..

With the exception of the last song, which is just tooooo long, I disagree with this. Smiley

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I really wonder how much control Ami and Yumi have on the sound of an Album when they are using so many different writers, producers, arrangers, and mixers.

I actually said something about this in a comment on my review post, but I think they probably have more control than they used to. When it was Tamio Okuda or Andy Sturmer doing everything, they would just record whatever those guys wrote. Now they can pick and choose who to work with and what types of songs they want. I'm sure they decide everything well in advance. No doubt their management and record label are in on all these decisions, but they don't have one single point-man that they're dealing with anymore so my bet is they have more power to push their own ideas, especially since none of these "producers" really have any claim over them like Okuda and Sturmer did. My bet is these songs are really self-produced by "Team Puffy" and just credited to the songwriters. I do know that Ami is basically a punk/indie rock chick, and while Yumi seems to have some more eclectic tastes, she doesn't dislike the hard stuff so she'd probably just go with whatever Ami wanted.

My feeling is this is the kind of album they actually want to make, whereas their early albums were more intended to do well on the charts.

Working with one person (or a few people) Puffy is apt to have more influence over the course of an album. I'm sure they DO have more imput/control now being much better established, but working with many people dilutes their ability to influence the individual and overall sound. Think about it, if they work on 6-8 songs with Andy on one album don't you think there is going to be a lot of give and take, not to mention a greater deal of familiarity between performer and writer, composer, mixer, et.al.? With 1 or 2 songs that level of understanding between the parties does not have time to develop fully. Also, keep it mind, that these songs are for the most part (entirely?) - not Puffy's creation. I'm sure the writer/composer has a lot more input into how 'his/her' song should sound. I'm sure Puffy has input, but it's not primary.

I don't think that Puffy 'just sang what was put in front of them' by Andy or Tamio.

I doubt that 'they decide everything well in advance' - making music is a collaborative, effort that doesn't lend itself to deciding everything in advance. Things just happen - often for the good, but sometimes things turn out less than expected and there are egos involved and pressures to conform. Again, lacking a deeper understanding/familiarity with the individuals could be disadvantageous.

From Andrew's Merrymakers interview:

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So far we didn't work directly with Ami and Yumi. Instead we sent over the backing tracks over the internet for them to sing onto at a studio in Tokyo and then they sent sound files back to us that we put into the mix.

Doesn't sound like "Team Puffy" was intimately/heavily involved in the production! What do they say when the song comes back and it's not really what they were expecting? I hope - "let's do it again" or something, but with many different people, this gets harder each time.

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We will probably never know their honest thoughts on this work, but that would be really interesting.

Ami has posted about it on her blog, and while I'm sure a lot of what she says about any album is really marketing, I would never accuse her of lying. And she's said she loves the album. She said it even before they recorded the vocals, when they first heard the instrumentals, and she still says it now. She's really proud of it.

That's interesting information, but I wouldn't expect anything else - hence my statement. I would be really surprised by anything else (and disappointed?).

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Yumi doesn't write much anymore so who knows how she feels about it. shame...


Anthony on: October 02, 2007, 04:17:01 PM

Upon checking the credits of honeycreeper a bit more closely, it would seem that the credited songwriters/producers - for the most part - actually play on the tracks they wrote/produced, so it's probably unlikely that Puffy or their people did most of the production work and then simply credited the songwriter.

Also, I checked the songs that I listed earlier that lacked a production credit, and all but one of them were arranged by Kenji Ueda - who also appears on each track he arranged - so it's possible he actually did the production work. The only song he isn't credited with arranging - "Koi no Etude" - was performed by Tamio Okuda and his studio band, so they probably produced that one.


Jeff on: October 02, 2007, 05:16:46 PM

Quote from: alkulp on October 02, 2007, 03:51:34 PM
I don't think that Puffy 'just sang what was put in front of them' by Andy or Tamio.

They did. They've said in interviews that they rarely talked to Tamio Okuda when he was their producer - it was a big treat for them when they were able to. With Andy, there was obviously a language barrier; I don't think he speaks much Japanese and they don't speak much English. There's no real give and take that I've ever heard of. These guys wrote the music, hired the musicians to play it and the girls sang over it after the fact. Obviously on Spike they played some of the instruments, so that was probably the point where they started to get more involved in the process, but before that and probably even mostly after, they came in pretty late. Even on honeycreeper, Ami said they didn't even get into the studio until all the tracks were already laid down - although I'm sure they had more input before the tracks were recorded. But it's not like most western bands where everybody's collectively sitting down and writing songs and then rehearsing them together before recording. This is Japan and this is a pop group. The musicians and producers go in the studio first; the singer(s) come(s) in later.

Ami and Yumi themselves have never tried to take credit for their music. They've always been totally up front that they're mainly performers. That doesn't take anything away from them IMO. Most bands would kill to be half the performers they are.

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I doubt that 'they decide everything well in advance' - making music is a collaborative, effort that doesn't lend itself to deciding everything in advance.

It's not nearly as organic a process as you're thinking. They're not a rock band in the traditional sense. Puffy was created out of thin air by Tamio Okuda and Sony Music. He chose them to sing his music; he wanted a girl singer (originally just one) to sing his music, and he taught them how to sing and probably also how to play guitar. Tamio Okuda *is* Puffy, originally. (All of Japan knew this; it was no secret, which is why their popularity dropped when he left.) A good number of their early tracks were actually covers of his own tracks that he'd already recorded; the rest were mostly new tracks that he wrote, often without even talking to them (again, this is according to Ami and Yumi themselves). Have you ever seen Tamio Okuda singing "Mother" or "Umi Eto"? It's pretty cool, actually. His version of "Mother" is definitely better. There's a video on YouTube of him singing it at some stadium show in Japan, in front of about 60,000 people.

How the process evolved over the years I'm not really sure. But my original point was that they probably do have more control now, so I'm sure it has evolved. But those early albums were definitely not collaborative. They mostly did what Tamio and Kaz told them to.

I do know - because Yumi said it in the Tofu interview that's hosted here now - that they still decide the songwriters that they want well in advance, at meetings. It doesn't just happen, they're not just calling random people on the phone from the studio at odd hours of the night over drinks. I know it's not nice to think about, but Puffy's a business; their record label and management calculate everything in advance because a lot of people's livelihoods depend on it. And you can be sure that there are reasons why they're choosing those people; otherwise that'd be a pretty short meeting. So they're also setting the direction for the album at those meetings.

This is not really much different than the way things work for most pop or rock acts in Japan. It's just a little different way of doing things than here. The collaboration just comes in the planning and preparation, not in the actual writing or recording.


Anthony on: October 03, 2007, 09:37:22 AM

honeycreeper debuts at #27 on the weekly Oricon charts.


Jeff on: October 03, 2007, 09:47:47 AM

Quote from: Anthony on October 03, 2007, 09:37:22 AM
honeycreeper debuts at #27 on the weekly Oricon charts.

Not too bad. I always want them to be higher, but this is definitely not their poppiest album. I'm curious to see if they get a bump on the chart from their TV appearance tonight - it was pretty major, apparently.

Do you remember how high Splurge and H&F charted? I know H&F hit #9 on the daily chart, but I don't know about the weekly chart.


Anthony on: October 03, 2007, 09:59:34 AM

According to Oricon's sub-site - which seems to go by weekly chart rankings - Hit & Fun hit a peak of #9 and stayed on the charts for six weeks. Splurge peaked at #19 and remained on the chart for five weeks.


PUFFYsayGO! on: October 04, 2007, 07:00:38 PM

I hate to say it, but Jeff is right about everything. I would love it if PUFFY were more involved in their music like I want them to be, but they're just performers, not really musicians. I'm not even sure if they played any kind of instrument untill they started their singing careers. And they're pretty much a business, contrary to them acting indie when they first came to the US.

Quote from: Anthony on October 02, 2007, 04:17:01 PM
Upon checking the credits of honeycreeper a bit more closely, it would seem that the credited songwriters/producers - for the most part - actually play on the tracks they wrote/produced, so it's probably unlikely that Puffy or their people did most of the production work and then simply credited the songwriter.

Actually, hasn't it always been like that? A lot of the song producers produce and write the music and play on the tracks as well, ever since PUFFY started in 1996. It's not a recent thing.

I'm kind of torn by this album, really. I like it, but then it could be a lot better. I really miss the older PUFFY; like Jeff said there could be some ballads on the album.

Some of my thoughts on the songs:

Oriental Diamond- I love this song. Am I the only one who thinks it sounds like Mogura Like and Asia No Junshin? The guy who wrote this song was the guy responsible for Asia No Junshin; it also references Asian countries like Asia did, and uses a vocoder. It reminds me of Mogura Like because it starts off with just guitars, then everything else comes in; it also ends like Mogura Like, with the guitars. I don't know if this was intentional or not; I hope that it is, otherwise it seems like they're running out of music ideas! What I like about the song the most is the melody. Gosh, it is just so playful, the way they sing it high then real low, so catchy! 5/5

Ain't Gonna Cut It- I like the style that was chosen for the song; the way they sing a line, and the back ups sing back. I was worried about Butch Walker working on honeycreeper; I absolutely found Radio Tokyo not interesting at all, and Call Me What You Like (If You Like Rock And Roll) was okay. I really like the "drug dealer" line; it came out of nowhere. I also found it funny how they sang "hook" right at the end. 5/5

Kimi To Otobai- The "Tu tu tu"s are really catchy, and the vocals are amazing. It's slidy, as was stated before. I don't think I've ever heard them sing this way before. 5/5

Kuchibiru Motion- I like the melody, but it gets pretty repetitive and annoying after a while. That's the problem with most of these songs; they're so long! Most of them are nearly 4 minutes if not more than! I like it whenever they have their solo lines, so this song was no exception. I think the guitars are really catchy, and the keyboards are really cool, yet I don't think they work with this song. Am I the only one who feels this way? 4/5

Hayai Kuruma- I actually don't care for this song at all. The vocals are a bit annoying, and the melody is uninteresting. I'll vote this as my least favorite honeycreeper song later. 3/5

Sayounara Summer- I really like this song! I actually listen to the pillows (occasionally; I only have on CD, and it's just a FLCL soundtrack) so I found this interesting. The melody took a while to get used to, but once I have, I really like it now! I really want to know what the translation for the lyrics are. 5/5

boom boom beat- Sounds like AC/DC's "Back In Black", which is cool. I don't listen to AC/DC, but I love it when I can tell which songs PUFFY's songs sound like. I like the lyrics a lot; the Japanese ones I mean. Andrew translated them on his website (how accurate is it?), Puffy AmiYumi World. The English lyrics make no sense to me whatsoever, but they're fun to sing along with. 4/5

Youkai PUFFY- I really like this song, but the intro can be annoying. I like how they have the guys talk during the middle of the song. It's definately different, in a good way. There's also a bit of ska guitar. What I don't get is what is Ghost PUFFY, and where did PUFFY the Monster come from?? Are they the same thing?? I really like the drums at the end; very rocking and fast! 4/5

Closet Full Of Love- This has got to be my favorite song from the album. Not to sound sappy, but I can relate to the lyrics. I really enjoy the way it is sung, including the chorus. I don't think it sounds like they're screaming at all, just singing high. There's also a bit of ska guitar in this song. The song overall has an 80's pop feel to it. 5/5

Hasan Jauze- I like the 50's rock/surf feel to this. It sounds like something they could've released years ago. I really like how they have a bit of a pattern with the music, but then out of no where, they have that scratch (I don't know the name of the instrument), and the way the song ends abruptly. You think it's predictable, but then they pull those little tricks on you. 4/5

complaint- The music is pretty good here. The melody is catchy as well, but not much else is special about the song. This song actually doesn't sound like the pillows at all, I don't think. Oh, and I enjoy the "hey"s at the end; I'm a sucker for "hey" shouts. 4/5

Oedo Nagareboshi IV- Definately one of my favorite songs on the album! I love it when PUFFY have ska songs. For a duo that genre hops, they certainly play a lot of ska. And this isn't typical ska either, which is great because most ska bands end up sounding the same (not much creativity). Oedo, however, ditches horn and uses the piano and organ instead, to great effect. Definately catchy. Is that Ami saying "Come take me far away" during the rock guitar riff? 5/5

Island- I love, love, love the Irish sound of this song. That's one of the styles I would never imagine PUFFY playing! The vocals are amazing! It reminds me of PUFFY de Rhumba; they play a different culture's style of music, and use vocals that fit the song. I never expected them to sing this way (but obviously they can, having listened to PUFFY de Rhumba). 5/5

Overall, a very good album, but I still prefer my all time favorite NICE (US version).

And why did they choose the word "honeycreeper" for the album, anyways? It's a kind of bird with a hooked beak that it uses to drink nectar from flowers. What's that got to do with anything?

EDIT: I'm actually working on Romanizing the album, since I really want to sing along with the songs. I'll post what I get done.


Jeff on: October 04, 2007, 09:05:03 PM

Quote from: PUFFYsayGO! on October 04, 2007, 07:00:38 PM
I hate to say it, but Jeff is right about everything. I would love it if PUFFY were more involved in their music like I want them to be, but they're just performers, not really musicians.

I'd say they're musicians, but they just aren't often asked to do anything but sing. I think they proved on both Spike and the Spike tour that they can be as versatile as you want them to be, and they do both write songs occasionally so they can do that too. But they were formed in a really inorganic way and that arrangement stuck at least for a while.

But like I said, I don't think that's a knock on them. Frank Sinatra didn't write or play his own music either. You know, even most vocalists in western rock bands don't write the music their band plays or play any instruments. So Ami and Yumi are no different than most rock singers; they're just not part of a permanent "band" because the producer takes that role in Japan pop music. The vocalist's job is usually to go out and sing and look cool and connect with the crowd at shows - that's true all over the world.

btw, if you haven't seen this, you should: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78TDI3W93lc

I wish somebody had posted Destruction Pancake, which is awesome on that DVD.

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And they're pretty much a business, contrary to them acting indie when they first came to the US.

Yeah but they did pull that off pretty well. I think Ami and Yumi themselves pretty much *are* indie at heart, especially judging by what they wear when they're not doing PR stuff. I think that's the most "real" that they've ever been and I wish they'd kept on with that image. But I'm not disagreeing with you (especially since you were agreeing with me), I just thought that particular style suited them better than any other I've seen. The business side of things I can't imagine they have much interest in, but they're under contract (I've often wondered if it's still the original one, which I'll bet was/is pretty restrictive), so to some extent they are not their own bosses. But I felt like that style was really them.

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And why did they choose the word "honeycreeper" for the album, anyways? It's a kind of bird with a hooked beak that it uses to drink nectar from flowers. What's that got to do with anything?

I suspect it'll be an interview question at some point and then we'll know, just like with Splurge. I doubt they just picked it randomly. It's gotta mean something to them. Their album titles are always symbolic of some mood they're in at any given point in time.


TofuUnion on: October 05, 2007, 01:44:41 AM

As for " Owaranai Uta / Endless Song " : http://youtube.com/watch?v=KVItFX4EZJI
Yumi sings a little ugly here. Her voice isn't steady enough. And her guitar play is nothing special. On contrary it's nice to see Ami playing Drums. ( btw " Yuki ga Furu Machi " on this Spike Daisakusen DVD is awesome.)

Well the attraction of Puffy was originally their dual vocal harmony like in old songs as " That's the way it is " or " Tararan ". And as it has shown in Splurge, they are directing more to (American taste) hard rock. Songs like " Radio Tokyo " or " Call me what you like " are I think succeeding. But I have often the impression some hard / punk rock songs sound just annoyingly loud. Despite their intent they can't be singing powerful enough but just screaming, because their voices are kind of feeble. They could control their voices in better ways. I can't judge if " Ain't gonna cut it " or " Closet Full of Love " is succeeding. ( I like them though.)

Yeah, before Kari Uta (trial singing) the Puffy band are always doing instrumental recording. Probably Ami and Yumi needn't read the music score. Before the final recording there can be many discussions between the band members, AmiYumi, song writer or producer at trial recording. But it could vary time to time who take more initiatives. Maybe there are rooms for better voice control, loudness or sound mixing.

It's interesting to read about their management. It's apparent they are pretty much of a business. But what kind of music they wish to promote is hard to grasp for me. Example : The sound of " Oriental Diamond " or " Youkai Puffy " is OK. But those Lyrics (and PV) are really trivial and forgettable. Or is that their nature ?

All About Honeycreeper - Page Five

Anthony on: October 05, 2007, 05:00:50 AM

Quote from: PUFFYsayGO! on October 04, 2007, 07:00:38 PM
Actually, hasn't it always been like that? A lot of the song producers produce and write the music and play on the tracks as well, ever since PUFFY started in 1996. It's not a recent thing.

Yes, but I was referring to this post by Jeff, which was specifically about honeycreeper:

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My bet is these songs are really self-produced by "Team Puffy" and just credited to the songwriters.

So I was just saying that it's doubtful that "Team Puffy" did all the producing on honeycreeper, since the songwriters were usually playing on their own songs, and thus probably did produce them.

As for Puffy's instrumental prowess, I think Ami's a decent rhythm guitar player - she can do chord changes and keep the rhythm well enough. I've never heard her take a lead outside of the botched solo on "Sui Sui" off of Spike Daisakusen DVD (edit: and "invisible tomorrow," which I forgot about initially), so I can't really say how good her "shredding" skills are. I don't know about Yumi - in the concert footage where she's got a guitar strapped on she often looks disinterested in it (and there are some amusing moments in either Jet Tour '98 or Jet Tour Extra where she appears to have no clue what to do with her Rickenbacker, but that could be a case of her goofing off for the cameras).

However, if you've ever seen the live solo performance of "Watashi no Nozomi" from the 2001: A Halfway of a Space Odyssey show (at least, I think that's when it was from) - with just Yumi and an electric piano - she does very well there and plays the piano decently. That's actually my favorite version of that song.

It's obvious that, if they really wanted to, Ami and Yumi could play some of their own instruments on every song while being augmented by studio pros - not unlike what the Monkees used to do. But there's really no point in doing that, other than to perhaps prove they can play instruments, which we already know is true.

Jeff's right - Sinatra never wrote or played anything. The '60s girl groups (some of whom are regarded among the greatest groups ever) often did even less - sometimes they didn't even sing on their own records.

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( btw " Yuki ga Furu Machi " on this Spike Daisakusen DVD is awesome.)

I agree with this 1000%. The version on the "Kore ga..." single grates on me, but that live version is just flat-out awesome.


Jeff on: October 05, 2007, 08:08:26 AM

Man, I might be critical sometimes, but some of you guys sound *really* down on Puffy these days! Smiley

TofuUnion - you're from Japan, right? It's interesting to hear a view from a Japanese fan. I read the mixi "Team Puffy" community and I translate what I can, but the guys there usually write like one or two sentences at most so I can't usually get much of a sense of anything.

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Yumi sings a little ugly here. Her voice isn't steady enough. And her guitar play is nothing special.

I think her voice sounds great - there's one verse where she doesn't quite hit the high notes, but it's a punk song, after all. She sounds like a punk singer to me. It's not supposed to sound perfect. But she sounds strong.

Her guitar playing is nothing special, no, but it's still guitar playing, which some American fans don't even realize they can do. Most of their songs are not complicated; I'm sure that both of them could play guitar almost all the time (and sing) if they really wanted to. It seems from some of their DVD's like they just don't really want to - they can't move around as much or get as into the singing and they don't always look comfortable. But they *can* do it. (They do look like they're having fun most of the time on Spike Daisakusen, though, even when Ami breaks her string, which is one reason it's my favorite DVD of theirs.)

Ami's guitar playing on "Destruction Pancake" I'm actually not convinced is real - I don't think her guitar's hooked up to anything. But it sure looks cool Smiley

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But I have often the impression some hard / punk rock songs sound just annoyingly loud. Despite their intent they can't be singing powerful enough but just screaming, because their voices are kind of feeble. They could control their voices in better ways.

I do agree with this, especially on Honeycreeper. I like their squeakiness on the earlier albums, but it worked on those albums because the music was not so overpowering. Now, the music is really loud and they are trying to scream over it and their voices are just being overwhelmed. I think it's a production problem, I don't think it's really their fault. (I know, I never actually blame the girls for anything - I just can't do it!) Tamio Okuda and Andy Sturmer both knew how to get the most out of them as singers by tailoring the music to their vocal style, but maybe it's a problem of having all these different producers that don't normally work with them on their last two albums.


yom1970 on: October 05, 2007, 08:31:20 AM

Quote from: PUFFYsayGO! on October 04, 2007, 07:00:38 PM
And why did they choose the word "honeycreeper" for the album, anyways? It's a kind of bird with a hooked beak that it uses to drink nectar from flowers. What's that got to do with anything?

According to interviews, what the title means is that PUFFY sucked in the essence of music out of the rock stars featured in this album as songwriters, just like honeycreepers drinking sweet nectar from beautiful flowers.


ichigo on: October 05, 2007, 12:53:35 PM

Quote from: Anthony on October 05, 2007, 05:00:50 AM
However, if you've ever seen the live solo performance of "Watashi no Nozomi" from the 2001: A Halfway of a Space Odyssey show (at least, I think that's when it was from) - with just Yumi and an electric piano - she does very well there and plays the piano decently. That's actually my favorite version of that song.

Sorry, this is kinda off-topic, but is that available online anymore now? I saw it on YouTube ages ago, and didn't bookmark it. I haven't been able to find it since. Really lovely performance, that's for sure!


Anthony on: October 05, 2007, 01:30:33 PM

I don't think it's on YouTube anymore; it's been ages since I last saw it. It was a smashing performance, though.


Cerahbes on: October 06, 2007, 03:09:56 PM


btw Anthony that video you are refering to is freaking amazing and I was so sad when I couldn't find it again!


PUFFYsayGO! on: October 06, 2007, 05:35:33 PM

Quote from: yom1970 on October 05, 2007, 08:31:20 AM

According to interviews, what the title means is that PUFFY sucked in the essence of music out of the rock stars featured in this album as songwriters, just like honeycreepers drinking sweet nectar from beautiful flowers.

Hahaha, that's exactly what I thought! Cheesy Thanks!

A bit off topic: Did PUFFY know how to play any instruments before being PUFFY, or did they start after forming?

I agree, Jeff, PUFFY's indie phase was really cool. I haven't seen much of what they wear normally nowadays since all recent photos I've seen seem set-up in a certain style on purpose, like they dressed up for them.


Jeff on: October 06, 2007, 08:07:44 PM

Quote from: PUFFYsayGO! on October 06, 2007, 05:35:33 PM
A bit off topic: Did PUFFY know how to play any instruments before being PUFFY, or did they start after forming?

As far as I know, they started after forming Puffy. Although I can't say I know this for sure, it's just one of those things I've always heard, but supposedly it's "famous in Japan" as my wife says for anything that's common knowledge there. Maybe TofuUnion can answer to that.

They're definitely not virtuosos, though, so I don't think they'd been playing for long when they started doing it live.

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I agree, Jeff, PUFFY's indie phase was really cool. I haven't seen much of what they wear normally nowadays since all recent photos I've seen seem set-up in a certain style on purpose, like they dressed up for them.

The last ones I might have seen were those Yumi photos with her boyfriend; that was about 3-4 months ago. Seems like she's dressing pretty much like she always has.

On their recent appearance on NHK, they dressed surprisingly casual - both of them wore khaki cargo pants and sneakers, and Ami wore some sort of t-shirt while Yumi wore a red shirt with a gold rising sun on it. I dunno if I'd call the style "indie" but it was closer to it than to anything we've seen promoting honeycreeper, and it was for NHK - this was them dressing up!


TofuUnion on: October 07, 2007, 12:35:22 AM

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Did PUFFY know how to play any instruments before being PUFFY, or did they start after forming?
Ami started a rock band " Hanoi Sex " with high school friends in 1989. She must have started playing guitar and Drums in that stretch. The band passed the Sony SD Audition in 1991. But only Ami alone remained for aiming at professional musician, when she was 18 years old.

Yumi on contrary had no particular music activity before she passed Sony " Chotto Sokomade " Audition in 1992. Where she aimed for the singer, when she was 17 years old.

Both girls were singing trainees at Sony Music Associates in Tokyo where they met each other for the first time (and later became friends). Probably Yumi has started playing guitar in those years.

The Ami part of " solosolo " album was already recorded in 95. (Yumi part was recorded later). Though both girls couldn't feel confident of the singing ability, so they asked the management office for making duo by themselves and that proposal was accepted. And the rest is the history. Smiley


Jeff on: October 07, 2007, 01:04:12 AM

TofuUnion - you've got me wondering now who you are. Are you really just a fan? You know stuff about them that I've never heard even from other Japanese fans. I'm just wondering if we've got some kind of former insider here Smiley


yom1970 on: October 07, 2007, 01:24:03 AM

Quote from: Jeff on October 07, 2007, 01:04:12 AM
TofuUnion - you've got me wondering now who you are. Are you really just a fan? You know stuff about them that I've never heard even from other Japanese fans. I'm just wondering if we've got some kind of former insider here Smiley

I don't know who TofuUnion is, but what he/she wrote are not the things too difficult to know, if you can read Japanese.
Actually what he/she wrote are written on PUFFY article in Japanese wikipedia.


Andrew on: October 07, 2007, 05:25:57 AM

Hmm looks like its time to update the bios page.

There is a 1997 book about Puffy called gPuffy: Ami & Yumi no ii kanji densetsu" which means something like "The happy legend of Ami and Yumi." I havenft been able to get a copy because the sellers who have it at Amazon.jp wonft ship overseas. It appears to document Ami and Yumifs younger days, at least based on the pictures.

Here are two pictures that the sellers were using:
Picture 1
Picture 2



Jeff on: October 07, 2007, 09:19:29 AM

Well the "Ayumi" book is really all about their history and it has a lot of pre-Puffy photos too, along with long, long interviews with Puffy and all the people around them. I've always wondered what's actually in there, but it probably talks about this stuff too.

What sources does the Japanese wikipedia article cite for this info? This is really specific info; it'd have to have an actual source on wikipedia. I'm just curious what it is.


Jinmouri on: October 07, 2007, 11:18:21 AM

Quote from: Andrew on October 07, 2007, 05:25:57 AM
Hmm looks like its time to update the bios page.

There is a 1997 book about Puffy called gPuffy: Ami & Yumi no ii kanji densetsu" which means something like "The happy legend of Ami and Yumi." I havenft been able to get a copy because the sellers who have it at Amazon.jp wonft ship overseas. It appears to document Ami and Yumifs younger days, at least based on the pictures.

Here are two pictures that the sellers were using:
Picture 1
Picture 2

I have that book...I haven't gazed at it for a while...Need to know anything about the book?


krash on: October 07, 2007, 07:08:45 PM

i REALLY wanna buy the new album! Wink
but it's too expensive!!
i'll try to buy this month...


All About Honeycreeper - Page Six

alkulp on: October 10, 2007, 09:24:20 AM

I want to take back something that I said earlier... I'm no longer disappointed with Honeycreeper. It's a fine work, not Puffy's best, but perhaps I was too eager for it to be so. I still think tracks 1,2,3, and 5 are too 'hot' and that Puffy pushes their vocals a bit too much on a few songs, but the album overall shows much of Puffy's diversity. My favorite part is definitely Yumifs gkikitai, kikitaich (I want to hear it, x2 - what no Nihongo language support on this board?) on Ghost Puffy (story). That's the sweet, fun loving sound that attracts me to Puffy.


PUFFYsayGO! on: October 10, 2007, 05:14:06 PM

Quote from: alkulp on October 10, 2007, 09:24:20 AM
I want to take back something that I said earlier... I'm no longer disappointed with Honeycreeper. It's a fine work, not Puffy's best, but perhaps I was too eager for it to be so. I still think tracks 1,2,3, and 5 are too 'hot' and that Puffy pushes their vocals a bit too much on a few songs, but the album overall shows much of Puffy's diversity. My favorite part is definitely Yumifs gkikitai, kikitaich (I want to hear it, x2 - what no Nihongo language support on this board?) on Ghost Puffy (story). That's the sweet, fun loving sound that attracts me to Puffy.

Actually, that is Ami saying that. Yumi then says says she doesn't wan't to hear it, in a scared tone of voice. Then later Ami says the story was scary, and Yumi says "Zen zen kowaku nai yo"... something like "It's not scary!".


alkulp on: October 11, 2007, 01:27:01 PM

You are right - my mistake.


Jeff on: October 13, 2007, 07:23:27 PM

Quote from: yom1970 on October 07, 2007, 01:24:03 AM
I don't know who TofuUnion is, but what he/she wrote are not the things too difficult to know, if you can read Japanese.
Actually what he/she wrote are written on PUFFY article in Japanese wikipedia.

Sorry to get back to this, but I'm working on improving the US wikipedia article on them and there seems to be a pretty big discrepancy here. So it'd be cool to resolve it.

Puffy's own official English bio page (http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Info/puffyamiyumi/bio/content.html) says they entered separate talent searches in 1995. This is what I always heard, and it's what the US wikipedia page says, referencing an IGN article. It's pretty weird if Sony Music Japan is hosting a page that says something other than what actually happened on an official site of one of their artists.

Can someone tell me the actual source for the Japanese wikipedia article's info? It's not cited there at all - in fact, that whole article is just one big mess of unsourced info. I would like to bring the two articles more in line with each other and obviously I want them to have correct info.


yom1970 on: October 13, 2007, 10:33:07 PM

Quote from: Jeff on October 13, 2007, 07:23:27 PM
Puffy's own official English bio page (http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Info/puffyamiyumi/bio/content.html) says they entered separate talent searches in 1995. This is what I always heard, and it's what the US wikipedia page says, referencing an IGN article. It's pretty weird if Sony Music Japan is hosting a page that says something other than what actually happened on an official site of one of their artists.

Can someone tell me the actual source for the Japanese wikipedia article's info? It's not cited there at all - in fact, that whole article is just one big mess of unsourced info. I would like to bring the two articles more in line with each other and obviously I want them to have correct info.

I just don't know the actual source of the article. Who knows. Probably it's a mishmash of interviews in TV appearances, on magazines and on books.
One source could be this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj5_izi1aPo

I think the most reliable source to know about their bio would be their books, such as "Ayumi" book. There, they were telling their story mostly (though not entirely) consistent with what is written on ja.wikipedia.

However, I don't think there is a "pretty big discrepancy" between their official English bio and the real history. Regarding the statement "they entered separate talent searches in 1995", I can tell "in 1995" part is not correct. It must be in 1991 or 1992 as TofuUnion wrote, because Ami said her band entered for Sony audition when she was in senior high, and Yumi said her entry was when she was around 18. (Source: Ayumi book)
In other part, I couldn't find any discrepancy.


Jeff on: October 13, 2007, 11:58:06 PM

Quote from: yom1970 on October 13, 2007, 10:33:07 PM
However, I don't think there is a "pretty big discrepancy" between their official English bio and the real history. Regarding the statement "they entered separate talent searches in 1995", I can tell "in 1995" part is not correct. It must be in 1991 or 1992 as TofuUnion wrote, because Ami said her band entered for Sony audition when she was in senior high, and Yumi said her entry was when she was around 18. (Source: Ayumi book)
In other part, I couldn't find any discrepancy.

Well, the other discrepancy is that both auditions were supposedly for Sony - the US wikipedia page says Yumi auditioned for "a management company". Anyway, 3 years off is what I'd define as a pretty big discrepancy when we're dealing with what's supposed to be factual info (it's an encyclopedia). It may as well say George Bush was elected president in 2003.

I can easily change it, I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing. I've got it as a "talk" item in the discussion for that page, and people are asking for the source before changing it or it'll just get changed back. (Wikipedia cannot be a source for itself. And really, that Japanese page should be citing sources.)

Do you remember approximately where in the Ayumi book they talk about this? I don't need to know the exact page, I just want to know where to start looking. I don't read Japanese so I'm pretty lost otherwise (I can ask my wife to find it if I know approximately where it is). I do have the book. If I can cite it, then I'll change the US wikipedia page.


yom1970 on: October 14, 2007, 12:43:39 AM

Quote from: Jeff on October 13, 2007, 11:58:06 PM
Well, the other discrepancy is that both auditions were supposedly for Sony - the US wikipedia page says Yumi auditioned for "a management company".

That one is not a discrepancy... Actually, Yumi auditioned for a management company "Sony Music Artists".

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Anyway, 3 years off is what I'd define as a pretty big discrepancy when we're dealing with what's supposed to be factual info (it's an encyclopedia). It may as well say George Bush was elected president in 2003.

Yes, you are right Grin

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Do you remember approximately where in the Ayumi book they talk about this? I don't need to know the exact page, I just want to know where to start looking. I don't read Japanese so I'm pretty lost otherwise (I can ask my wife to find it if I know approximately where it is). I do have the book. If I can cite it, then I'll change the US wikipedia page.

You can check chapter 2 of both Ami and Yumi's solo interviews, where they were talking about their pre-PUFFY and early-PUFFY days. Ami's is from p.48 and Yumi's from p.66.


timwamoonface on: November 12, 2007, 10:34:16 AM

if i remember clearly, the amiyumidas site had suspicions of a US release of honeycreeper...the english PUFFY site had this posted after their Vancouver show:

"It was a great show tonight in Vancouver and we hope the rest of the tour is fun too!
Let us know what you thought!

AND we forgot to tell you that..."honeycreeper" is sold at the concert venues.

The album is not yet out in the US/Canada but we have specially brought extra copies from Japan so make sure you get tickets to the show and buy the album at the venue!"

I bolded the 'not yet out'...safe to assume there will be a US/CANADA release?


Jeff on: November 12, 2007, 11:09:21 AM

My guess is they're having some trouble getting it released here. I have absolutely nothing to back that up, but it's the only way to explain how disjointed the tour and release are. The last two tours, at least, have been specifically promoting albums (and in 2005, the cartoon). This tour is supposed to be too, only the album has yet to be released here and has no announced date. So, they've taken it upon themselves, it seems like, to bring some Japanese copies with them to the shows and at least get the music out that way and make some extra money in the process.

It seems to me that selling the Japanese release of the album to fans at their US shows would seriously dilute any potential audience for the US release. Those are their most hardcore fans, who they would otherwise know they can count on to buy any release here. So it seems like this is a case where they must have thrown up their hands and said "oh well, we have no choice".

I don't know if Splurge just really didn't sell well or what, but it sure seems like they both want and expect a US release for honeycreeper and just haven't gotten it. I would guess that their fate is now back in Sony's hands in this country. Maybe they're just caught up in a bunch of red tape, with Sony not wanting to spend the money on releasing the album here but also unwilling to cut the US rights loose. That would suck for everyone if that's the case; I'm sure that Bar/None or some other indie label would be happy to release honeycreeper if given the chance.

Or, maybe Puffy's still shopping themselves around. Maybe they've gotten offers from indie labels and just haven't liked any of them. I think the former situation's probably more likely, though, just knowing Sony.

I do think it's odd that Sony Japan would sanction selling Japanese copies in the US.


Andrew on: November 12, 2007, 11:11:23 AM

As I recall they didn't release the US version of Splurge until after the US tour last year. But they did at least have a posted release date. It does seem odd that they haven't even made a release date yet for Honeycreeper.

I wonder what different tracks might be on the US version. Hopefully it will be a new song, hey maybe even one by Sturmer.


Jeff on: November 12, 2007, 11:21:21 AM

Quote from: Andrew on November 12, 2007, 11:11:23 AM
As I recall they didn't release the US version of Splurge until after the US tour last year. But they did at least have a posted release date.

Well, and the one they sold at the venues in the US was the US version, just a bit earlier than the street date. They said they're selling the Japanese version at the US/Canada venues this time, which is pretty weird for a band to do if they're thinking of releasing an album here. It's going to mess up the sales numbers at the very least.


TBB on: November 12, 2007, 02:13:03 PM

they're planning a release of a US honeycreeper sometime in 2008.
http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Info/puffyamiyumi/honeysweeper_flyer/


krash on: November 12, 2007, 02:42:35 PM

Quote from: TBB on November 12, 2007, 02:13:03 PM
they're planning a release of a US honeycreeper sometime in 2008.
http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Info/puffyamiyumi/honeysweeper_flyer/

wow!
this is great!


Andrew on: November 12, 2007, 02:59:17 PM

Thanks for the info TBB. Hey who knows maybe they'll do another tour when the CD comes out...


Jeff on: November 12, 2007, 05:00:40 PM

Quote from: Andrew on November 12, 2007, 02:59:17 PM
Thanks for the info TBB. Hey who knows maybe they'll do another tour when the CD comes out...

It's possible. They did a "mini-tour" in 2003 and then came back after An Illustrated History was released...

I wonder how TBB found that flyer - it obviously came from their US publicity agency Girlie Action, who emailed me about the tour and album a while back as well (not just me, I mean I'm on their mailing list). Weird that it's on their Japanese web site. I still won't feel totally comfortable about it until I see a US record label say they're releasing it. Sony Music Japan and Sony Music USA aren't really even the same company (going back many years, to the pre-Sony Columbia/CBS days).

btw what is up with that "Sweep me! Gape me! Touch me!" weirdness?

All About Honeycreeper - Page Seven

DoAsPuffy on: November 12, 2007, 07:29:10 PM

Quote from: Andrew on November 12, 2007, 02:59:17 PM
Thanks for the info TBB. Hey who knows maybe they'll do another tour when the CD comes out...

And it is hope like this that gives me reason to keep living happily, lol Grin


Randall Flagg on: November 12, 2007, 09:23:13 PM

Quote from: Andrew on November 12, 2007, 02:59:17 PM
Thanks for the info TBB. Hey who knows maybe they'll do another tour when the CD comes out...

Oh, man. I would love to see them play the New Daisy in Memphis. I would run over children and the elderly to be the first in there and be able to lean on (yes, lean on) the stage.


TBB on: November 12, 2007, 11:50:45 PM

Quote from: Jeff on November 12, 2007, 05:00:40 PM

I wonder how TBB found that flyer - it obviously came from their US publicity agency Girlie Action
btw what is up with that "Sweep me! Gape me! Touch me!" weirdness?
I was just searching google for PUFFY honeysweeper when I was looking for reviews of the Vancouver concert (but I was very unsuccessful given the time difference between America and Australia, the concert hadn't even started Tongue) and I found a site talking about the "upcoming tour" and they had that link on the site so I checked it out. haha I have not idea what's with the "Sweep me! Gape me! Touch me! stuff but it dosen't sound quite right Undecided. It's also written on PUFFY's US staff blog that the Japanese copies of honeycreeper are being sold at the US venues. But its the second press editions by the looks of it.


TBB on: November 12, 2007, 11:52:48 PM

oopps didn't realise that had already been mentioned Embarrassed


Mode7 on: November 13, 2007, 02:34:43 AM

I assume "Sweep me!" means "sweep me off my feet."
"Gape me!" means "make me gape (my mouth) in awe."
"Touch me!" means "show me you care by touching me (but not necessarily the bad way!)."

Some stuff can be sexually construed, but I don't believe any of this was meant to have subtle undertones.


Jeff on: November 13, 2007, 06:37:13 PM

It's just weird - it's not even correct English. I could see if this came from Hit & Run or something, but it has Girlie Action literally written all over it. And "touch me" is just I think not at all what they meant to convey there Smiley


Cerahbes on: November 13, 2007, 11:32:47 PM

I can confirm they are selling the japanese 2nd printing of Honeycreeper at the shows ... at least thats what I got in Vancouver when I wasn't paying attention

guy selling the stuff goes "this album hasn't been released yet" and I say oh wow... is that the US version?! and he said yes so I bought it HAHA - I looked down at it a few minutes later and was like WTF this is the same one I already have .. at least its the 2nd printing version which I didn't already have - and I got an autographed card thingy with it to boot


antennas to heaven on: November 14, 2007, 02:38:03 AM

just out of curiosity, how much are they charging for the album?


Jeff on: November 14, 2007, 04:50:11 AM

What are the actual differences in the second printing? Size of the booklet? Anything else?


Cerahbes on: November 14, 2007, 02:28:30 PM

the album at the show was $25 in Canada, prices will probably vary because of the canadian customs are said to be a pain with merchandise for bands

the booklets are different , front picture alone is different

original was like 22 pages, the 2nd printing is 12 I think.

the back picture is also different on the 2 editions - which makes the obi thingy different too so they can match the back picture

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